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Derek Fordjour in conversation with Ava DuVernay (FINAL 08

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In a wide-ranging conversation, Derek Fordjour and award-winning director Ava DuVernay approach Fordjour’s new painting Bookmaker’s Dozen (2021) as a springboard for meditations on process and labor, framing in painting and film, the historical patterns at play in the making and reception of art, and the Black body. The cinematic painting features twelve images of Black jockeys riding their horses; Fordjour has painted each image on its own canvas, and the entire group is framed in a single, unique frame so that each rider is both on his own and part of a collective. Together, he and DuVernay talk about how this Eadweard Muybridge-like composition captures the movement of time and the evolution of social structures alike, reflecting on their respective experiences working in different—but related—visual mediums.

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